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One of the big announcements in the games industry in recent weeks has got to be the existence of Dark Souls II. A sequel to a game that has got to have one of the most fanatical and loyal fan bases, Dark Souls II is promising more of the same from the first game. When the first game was almost unique in its genius level design and new-age difficulty, the promise of more of the same is something to get excited about.


Before I get flamed for what I’m about to write, I will just say this – I have been a fan of the Souls series before it was the Souls series. Before Dark Souls, and Demon’s Souls before it was the King’s Field games, I’ve played them all, and I’ve loved the entire series for its brilliant reworking of the Gothic myths and storytelling style for the games platform.

But I am concerned by Dark Souls II. I don’t doubt that it’s going to be a good game, but I worry market pressures and From Software’s own track record with sequels means that Dark Souls II is the first sign that the creativity of the series is slipping.

The first concern I have is with the title itself. Dark Souls II implies that this is not going to be a break from the previous game. Sequels (aside from the oddballs like Final Fantasy) aim for a consistency across the experience – or to put it another way once you’ve won over the fans, you don’t want to upset them with the sequels. One of the great wins for Kings Field to Demon’s Souls to Dark Souls is that, despite belonging to the same franchise, the naming conventions meant the developers were not tied down as much; they could be freer in terms of creativity because they did not have the same perceived legacy to live up to. And so King’s Field games were fundamentally different to Demon’s Souls, which was a different game by comparison to Dark Souls. Dark Souls II is going to be more constrained by its very name, and I worry that’s going to inhibit the franchise’s main advantage – its unique mythologies and creativity with them.

But more than that, the name of the game worries me in the sense of the commercial realities behind it. Demon’s Souls was a sleeper hit. Dark Souls was a genuine commercial success, and so the money behind Dark Souls II is going to be significant. On the one hand this is good, as it gives the developers greater resources to make things bigger and more spectacular. On the other, the commercial pressure on this game to sell a bucketload to turn a profit could lead to some concessions, and concessions has never been what the Souls franchise has been about. Do the developers tone down the game’s themes? Already Dark Souls was thematically “lighter” than Demon’s Souls, so does Dark Souls II take another step towards a generic fantasy setting, rather than a claustrophobic Gothic horror? Do the developers make the game easier – more accessible, to draw more players in?

Perhaps not, but I would not be surprised if there are some significant compromises made with this game. It’s almost impossible for a cult classic franchise to become a mainstream one without compromises, and the sales expectations for Dark Souls II are likely to be similar to the sales expectations for a mainstream major release.

I also worry that From Software has a tradition of driving its franchises into the dirt, and this might be what’s happening with the Souls games. The Armored Core games are the Tony Hawk Pro Skater of the Mech games. The predecessors to the Souls games, the King’s Field games, suffered from a gradual erosion of creativity which coincided with the series’ increasingly weak commercial and critical performance.

One has to wonder – what else can be added to Dark Souls? The game was perfectly self-contained, and I would argue that From Software does not need to add anything to the game’s mythology. Revisiting it is nice in theory, but again, creativity has always been the key to the success of these games, and I question whether “more of the same” is the kind of creativity we actually want from From Software.

I really hope I’m proven wrong with these concerns, as the Souls games have almost singlehandedly maintained my faith that the games industry is still capable of producing original, brilliant games beyond the indie developers. I’m going to be following the development of this game very closely indeed.

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  • You know Matt, you echoed my very thoughts as soon as I heard Dark Souls II was announced. I haven't personally played a game in the series myself, but I know enough that each title was different enough from each other to set itself as its own game, the fact that Dark Souls II is the first "II" in the series does seem worrying.
    Then again, perhaps Bajo talked them into it *shrugs*

  • I really do hope to high heaven my concerns are proven unfounded with this series, as it really is precious in terms of what it offers the industry. But yeah, a direct sequel would be contrary to a great deal of what the franchise has come to stand for.

    It's going to be one of the most important releases for me next year, that's for sure.

    And Bajo? Is that an Order of the Stick reference I spy? 😀

  • Oh. Can we make it an Order of the Stick reference? It's so much funnier that way (and also, if you haven't read it before, check out Order of the Stick). 😀

  • I agree that I find this interesting but mixed in reaction. The first two 'souls' games were obviously similar but different titles, and both were great for their own reasons, but I do find myself wondering what will happen now that they have a 'true' sequel. That it is a sequel does not in and of itself worry me – continuity and having a chance to further explore a world and its mythology is pretty appealing, but hopefully it doesn't limit creativeness at the same time.

  • I'm sure you saw my Tweet when the reveal came about last night. I'm not in the least happy about this announcement. Niche titles are great because they're not focus grouped and mainstream and something tells me that Dark Souls II will indeed be focus grouped. I can almost see them all around a table discussing how they're going to make the game "accessible" for everyone right now.

    I hope I'm wrong, but like you Matt, something inside me just doesn't feel right with this announcement.

  • I am worried too, for all the things you have mentioned. Still I can't help but be excited. Even if the series does go downhill, we still have the first two games to enjoy as they are.

    I have heard rumors that it could be a prequel as there was a dragon in the trailer. I'd be happy with a game completely unrelated to the other Souls in everything but gameplay mechanics. Or it could just take place thousands of years later with all new mythology and stuff. Meh, as long as they don't completely ruin it I have high hopes.

  • I'm all for Dark Souls gaining new players/ fans, but I hope the game doesn't become so "Accessible" that it removes the things long term fans hold dear. I've played through Dark souls almost 6 times (with my pvp toon being on NG++) and it wasn't because the game became any easier, it was because I loved the challenge. On the other hand, if this is a proper squeal, story wise that's cool because I loved the lore and characters of Dark Souls and would love to see it more flashed out.

    And Zezhyrule – after watching the trailer like a dozen times I thought the same thing too. Esp with the snow and that wooden rope bridge that that guy was crossing – looked like things that end up being banished to the painted world. And yes the Dragon as well – and I'm pretty sure that lady in the hood is Pharis (There was speculation that Pharis was a women)

    Dark Souls is hands down my favourite game of all time – I am freaking excited as hell about Dark Souls 2.

  • Yer as long as they dont make it easy i only played dark souls becuase it was hard but they do after make it understanding as dark souls told u noff so i used stuff and dint khow what they wher for .all so i dint find out how to make wepons till my 2 play though

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